Comments on: Suckage http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/ Photographic Arts Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:42:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: John Setzler http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/#comment-8651 John Setzler Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:13:34 +0000 http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/#comment-8651 @Paul: I agree with the technical proficiency comment for the most part, especially with commercial work. In my opinion as far as artistic photography is concerned, technical proficiency is secondary to many other things though... @Paul: I agree with the technical proficiency comment for the most part, especially with commercial work. In my opinion as far as artistic photography is concerned, technical proficiency is secondary to many other things though…

]]> By: Paul http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/#comment-8645 Paul Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:53:36 +0000 http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/#comment-8645 Great post, John. You hit upon a very important point when you said: "This comes from a photographer who is not interested in commercial work". That's a very good point. However, I also mentioned technical proficiency as well to help you with your vision. For commercial work, you have to do what you are told, but you also have to have the technical know how to pull it off. You certainly cannot suck or you won't get hired. So, the 'suckage rating' comes from the outside, not the inside. External feedback can be very important in helping you get to where you want to go ... perhaps. After all, an opinion about your photography is merely someone's idea of how they would change it to suit themselves. It's not an absolute. So, if I say your photography sucks, that is from my point of view. However, if you are happy with it, then my opinion sucks! :-) Great post, John. You hit upon a very important point when you said: “This comes from a photographer who is not interested in commercial work”. That’s a very good point. However, I also mentioned technical proficiency as well to help you with your vision. For commercial work, you have to do what you are told, but you also have to have the technical know how to pull it off. You certainly cannot suck or you won’t get hired. So, the ’suckage rating’ comes from the outside, not the inside.

External feedback can be very important in helping you get to where you want to go … perhaps. After all, an opinion about your photography is merely someone’s idea of how they would change it to suit themselves. It’s not an absolute. So, if I say your photography sucks, that is from my point of view. However, if you are happy with it, then my opinion sucks! :-)

]]> By: John Setzler http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/#comment-8643 John Setzler Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:12:13 +0000 http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/#comment-8643 @Markus: Thanks for the comment. One interesting bit about this photo is that most of the smoke you see in the image is not from the cigarette... It's from a barbecue grill that isn't visible in the photo. I just thought the extra smoke worked well in this particular photo. This photo isn't intended to glamorize smoking in any way. Hopefully the photograph is a good character portrait of the person :) @Markus: Thanks for the comment. One interesting bit about this photo is that most of the smoke you see in the image is not from the cigarette… It’s from a barbecue grill that isn’t visible in the photo. I just thought the extra smoke worked well in this particular photo. This photo isn’t intended to glamorize smoking in any way. Hopefully the photograph is a good character portrait of the person :)

]]> By: Markus http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/#comment-8642 Markus Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:00:12 +0000 http://www.setzler.net/2008/07/14/suckage/#comment-8642 Great leading picture, definitely not a sucker. Here in Germany it becomes already a bit wacky to positively portray smokers especially when depicturing so well the indulgence in vice. But even for me as a non-smoker this works. Great leading picture, definitely not a sucker. Here in Germany it becomes already a bit wacky to positively portray smokers especially when depicturing so well the indulgence in vice. But even for me as a non-smoker this works.

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